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Can I suggest using this thread as a posting for all Windows Mobile v5.0 problems and ActiveSync 4.1 problems.
I've just joined this forum after upgrading from 2003SE to Mobile v5.0 for Axim X50v on the Dell Axim X50v. This software release is a disaster. How can this have happened, where is beta testing, regression testing, acceptance testing? It's apparent from the Dell and HP forums that problems are common-place.
These are the problems Im experiencing, which appear to be typical.
Speed - General performance - is unbeleivably ponderous in response to the simplest actions (like I click on "Ok", or ask for the "Menu"). What has happened to my Axim X50v running at 624Mhz!!!?. The machine is very pre-occupied with something since the upgrade - (and it isn't me, or the job in hand!) - Synchronisation - is painfully slow. I've been synchronising over USB (first time synch) for 75 mins - YES SEVENTY FIVE - it's just finished. - Soft-reset: it now takes a full 45 seconds from soft-reset to use. What is it doing?
Battery life - the battery runs down at an incredible rate after the upgrade
Bugs - Crashes - (eg 'error detected in device.exe') - WiFi - sometimes runs of its own accord after a soft-reset, but the wireless driver thinks it isn't running (so I cant turn it off!) - Reset - Black screen with vertical lines sometimes after a soft-reset - Email accounts - I setup up a new Email account in the email client and it disappeared after I'd been using it for a day. This isn't friendly! - Synchronisation - the connection drops.
What have I tried? Ive removed all programs on the Axim x50v through Active Sync 4.1, uninstalled all Pocket PC software from the partnered Desktop PC, uninstalled Active Sync, hard-reset the Axim X50v and started from a clean slate, re-installing ActiveSync4.1 without any additional software. No difference. Im stuck with this until either Dell fix it in a future service release or I retro-install 2003SE.
How and when are these problems going to get fixed?
Yeah, I'll also add that Money 2005 just doesn't work with Windows Mobile 5 (I believe it's an issue with the database Money uses on the device). I'd have thought that Microsoft would have done something about this with Money 2006 but no, still broken... jas
While the activesync forum is the appropriate place for activesync questions and problems, this section is the appropriate place for most other WM5 posts.
In addition to that, the hallmark of the entire public.pocketpc forum is tolerance... everyone should feel free to post even if they are unable to find the appropriate forum... in most cases, the questions will be answered along with a reference to the appropriate forum.
At this point, the release of 4.0 and 4.1 are major developments that impact everyone new to pocketpc's who are purchasing current (wm5) devices, so they are the ones that need all the help they can get.
Finally, most readers will allow you to create a filter to deal with all posts that have activesync, 4.0 or 4.1 in the subject line.
I too have an x50v that I have upgraded to Windows Mobile 5. I too have experienced some issues and some of the issues you have brought up are known issues that Dell will be addressing. Those issues include the rapid battery drain if you have SD or CF card in the device and Microsof has done a pretty good job with ActiveSync 4.1. Dell will also be addressing the WiFi and bluetooth stacks as well if the rumor mill is right.
That said, clearly you are having a lot more issues than the norm. When I first did my upgrade, it went horrible as well and I ended up rolling back to WM2003SE. When I tried it again, I did a hard reset and removed all of the storage cards. I then cradle the unit and did the upgrade. I highly recommend that you keep the device cradled the entire time you are upgrading. It seems that going to battery power (when you are told to reset the device) doesn't do it any favors.
The initial sync of the device in WM5 is slow but has been significantly improved in 4.1. Still, remember that you are writing to the ROM now instead of RAM - it's slower than RAM. Once that initial sync is done though, you should see a better performance.
In an editorial I wrote last week I stated that the problems are there but there is a lot to like about the new OS. With Dell expected to release a new ROM image soon, I wouldn't give up on it just yet but I would suggest making starting all over as I outlined above. You can find that editorial on my website BTW.
> Can I suggest using this thread as a posting for all Windows Mobile > v5.0 problems and ActiveSync 4.1 problems.
> I've just joined this forum after upgrading from 2003SE to Mobile > v5.0 for Axim X50v on the Dell Axim X50v. This software release is a > disaster. How can this have happened, where is beta testing, regression > testing, acceptance testing? It's apparent from the Dell and HP forums > that problems are common-place.
> These are the problems Im experiencing, which appear to be typical.
> Speed > - General performance - is unbeleivably ponderous in > response to the simplest actions (like I click on "Ok", or ask for the > "Menu"). What has happened to my Axim X50v running at 624Mhz!!!?. The > machine is very pre-occupied with something since the upgrade - (and it > isn't me, or the job in hand!) > - Synchronisation - is painfully slow. I've been > synchronising over USB (first time synch) for 75 mins - YES SEVENTY > FIVE - it's just finished. > - Soft-reset: it now takes a full 45 seconds from > soft-reset to use. What is it doing?
> Battery life - the battery runs down at an incredible rate after the > upgrade
> Bugs > - Crashes - (eg 'error detected in device.exe') > - WiFi - sometimes runs of its own accord after a soft-reset, > but the wireless driver thinks it isn't running (so I cant turn it > off!) > - Reset - Black screen with vertical lines sometimes after a > soft-reset > - Email accounts - I setup up a new Email account in the > email client and it disappeared after I'd been using it for a day. This > isn't friendly! > - Synchronisation - the connection drops.
> What have I tried? Ive removed all programs on the Axim x50v through > Active Sync 4.1, uninstalled all Pocket PC software from the partnered > Desktop PC, uninstalled Active Sync, hard-reset the Axim X50v and > started from a clean slate, re-installing ActiveSync4.1 without any > additional software. No difference. Im stuck with this until either > Dell fix it in a future service release or I retro-install 2003SE.
> How and when are these problems going to get fixed?
Hi Clinton, Thanks for the reply, much appreciated, and Ive just checked out your editorial for good measure :-) Im seriously thinking of retrograding and trying again. A couple of things worry me though:
1. Can I continue to use ActiveSync 4.1 during the retrograde to 2003SE and re-upgrade to Mobile v5.0? I seem to recall documented glitches between ActiveSync 4.1 and Mobile v5.0? 2. Dell say "After completing the system ROM reinstallation, there is a possibility new features of Windows Mobile 5.0 may be disabled". What does this mean? Surely not that when I re-upgrade to v5.0, some features may not work?!
The two hints you've suggested (disabling error reporting and safe mode functionality) - is this during the upgrade, or once Mobile 5.0 is installed? Presumably I should remove my SD for the duration of the retrograde and re-upgrade.
I am not sure about your first question as I have not had to roll back to WM2003 myself. As for the second point, it is probably more of a catchall legal comment. I have been able to do all of the things with my upgraded x50v I did before the upgrade.
One thing you REALLY have to do is make a couple changes to the Axim x50v after doing the upgrade. I posted this how-to...
M wrote: > Hi Clinton, > Thanks for the reply, much appreciated, and Ive just checked out your > editorial for good measure :-) Im seriously thinking of retrograding > and trying again. A couple of things worry me though:
> 1. Can I continue to use ActiveSync 4.1 during the retrograde to 2003SE > and re-upgrade to Mobile v5.0? I seem to recall documented glitches > between ActiveSync 4.1 and Mobile v5.0? > 2. Dell say "After completing the system ROM reinstallation, there is a > possibility new features of Windows Mobile 5.0 may be disabled". What > does this mean? Surely not that when I re-upgrade to v5.0, some > features may not work?!
> The two hints you've suggested (disabling error reporting and safe mode > functionality) - is this during the upgrade, or once Mobile 5.0 is > installed? Presumably I should remove my SD for the duration of the > retrograde and re-upgrade.
Darren hit most of the points on his reply. Yes, you can continue to use 4.1 with WM2003SE. You will not have some of the features (such as media sync) with WM2003 as you do with WM5 but it will work.
Yes, you can remove the cards. I would recommend it in fact.
> Hi Clinton, > Thanks for the reply, much appreciated, and Ive just checked out your > editorial for good measure :-) Im seriously thinking of retrograding > and trying again. A couple of things worry me though:
> 1. Can I continue to use ActiveSync 4.1 during the retrograde to 2003SE > and re-upgrade to Mobile v5.0? I seem to recall documented glitches > between ActiveSync 4.1 and Mobile v5.0? > 2. Dell say "After completing the system ROM reinstallation, there is a > possibility new features of Windows Mobile 5.0 may be disabled". What > does this mean? Surely not that when I re-upgrade to v5.0, some > features may not work?!
> The two hints you've suggested (disabling error reporting and safe mode > functionality) - is this during the upgrade, or once Mobile 5.0 is > installed? Presumably I should remove my SD for the duration of the > retrograde and re-upgrade.
